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Voting in the Tubey awards: it's all fun and games until you forget that there's one show you're not caught up on, and you get multiple spoilers for the Friday Night Lights series finale even after you tried to screen for show titles before reading any detailed options. *headdesk* Now I know endgame pairings for Matt & Riggins. NOT COOL. SO NOT COOL, UNIVERSE.

I never thought I would say this about a concert film, but damn, do I ever want to see the one for Glee. I just don't want to see it in 3-D. And two weeks in theaters gives me the impression that a) there may not be a 2-D option, and b) it will be excessively crowded and not worth paying $7.50 for, especially if I can't skip over the horrible songs, of which there are many. But I am going to be all over that magical DVD.

And now, since Ryan Murphy is talking about graduating kids again, let me be clear: I am okay with it. I want this to remind me of my own high school experience: loving my classmates, hating to see them go and be replaced by imposters, but happy that the teachers and the foundations of the school are still there, letting new classes shine.

Yes, I wish he had started them as freshmen, or at least some of them as freshmen, but he can stop being so defensive and people can stop erupting in the comments about the show already "lacks realism" and so that's not an excuse. Yes, crazy/awful stuff happens but it is still a show that follows real-world timelines, and I can believe it's a real school. For any characters who have clearly established ages -- which, to be fair, is not all of them -- there is no way to keep them around as students past 3 years. Except for failing Brittany. That could happen.

But there is a difference between graduating them and saying they will "not appear at all" after that. Is Puck going to college? DOUBTFUL. There's one person you can ground in Lima for guest appearances. He could even get a job at the school (maybe not a fancy job, but something -- or even an assistant sports coach? Which, hey, there's a Cheerio opportunity for ya too). Or is there a college nearby? If not, make one up. Don't send everybody there, but you could probably keep up to 4 with a storyline like that. Community college, if you prefer, which could be for the less-bright kids or the poorer ones who plan to transfer.

I'm not suggesting should watch Glee: The College Club (we could, it's not unreasonable to send the majority to a big university, but you'd still have to shrink the club's size and it would be a whole different ball game), but even offscreen most of the time, it would be a way for them to stay in the fringes. There are a variety of ways you could pick your favorite to save as Schue's assistant. It doesn't have to be a paid position, they could just miss the club and want to help. There is no way I'm the only super-clingy graduate around.

Yes, we all know Rachel (and probably Kurt) is/are going to flee far and fast at the first opportunity, but don't you think they will probably come home to see their parents over the holidays, if nothing else? Do you know how long a college break between semesters is? Hint, it lasts into January after high school is back in session and often starts at least a tad earlier. And boom, there's a guest star spot, because:

I don't know about you, but I know a lot of college freshmen who came back to visit their high schools at some point in the fall to visit favorite teachers, and Mr. Schue is definitely the kind of teacher you would stop in to see. Sophomore year, not so much. But freshman year, when you're home on a break, you mosey on over to check up on the old digs.

So because season 4 is a heck of a long way off, I take his claims with a grain of salt and blithely assume he will find a way to have some of them at least guest star when push comes to shove. No, you can't keep them all forever. But there are ways around it to let them - and us - all down easy.

(Finally, sir, I'd like you to keep in mind that should the show be successful into season 6 or 7, your very favorite can always choose to major in education and come back to student teach for a semester at William McKinley. In fact, that is what absolutely should happen.)
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The Qausi-Spoilery section, for those scrolling down from above

CSI: I don't know how I feel about Ted Danson becoming the new boss. I know I am not the slightest bit sad about Langston leaving -- though kind of random, and after they worked so hard to avoid a murder charge in the finale, too! -- so I guess I'll just roll with the punches and see how I like the character.

CSI: NY: The season premiere will mark the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 tragedy, which means it’s going to be an emotional episode for Mac who, as you know, lost his wife in the attacks.

And then I let out a high-pitched squeal that resembled a tea kettle going off. NY, you just might kick off your season with an episode that doesn't suck! Can you be like CSI Season 11 and come back from the brink of hell? Looks like I just found the first reason it's good you didn't  get canceled. High five! BUT WAIT, THE SPOILER CONTINUES AND GETS BETTER:

It doesn’t help matters that the new forensics tech Hannah — who’s book-smart but socially inept — starts hounding him with questions about his missus’ passing. BTW, word on the street is several pivotal scenes will be shot on location in New York.

The Office: Dear Jenna Fischer, I have never been so happy to see an actress get pregnant. Like, ever. MORE HALPERT BABIES, WOOHOO! Perfectly spaced less than 2 years apart, too. Outstanding.

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Obviously, today's main news is Emmy nomination announcements!   Every year, I find a way to spend more time discussing them. This year I am even obsessively reading like 800 reactionary posts about the nominations. I AM WEIRDLY OBSESSED. I think it's all the energy I don't put into caring about the Oscars beyond the fashion.

My picks in bold, per usual.

OUTSTANDING DRAMA
Boardwalk Empire
Dexter
Friday Night Lights
Game of Thrones
The Good Wife
Mad Men

I'm gonna assume FNL deserves it. Good Wife in second by default, and all the cable shows tied for last on principle. With specific hatred for how disgusting everything I have ever heard about Game of Thrones is.

OUTSTANDING ACTRESS IN A DRAMA
Kathy Bates, Harry’s Law
Connie Britton, Friday Night Lights
Mireille Enos, The Killing
Mariska Hargitay, Law & Order: SVU
Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife
Elisabeth Moss, Mad Men

Connie Britton on principle. 2nd: Julianna. 3rd: Mariska. ...you know what, actually everyone is pretty OK except I don't know who Mireille is as I have never even seen a promo for The Killing. Another strong year for the consistently strongest category.

OUTSTANDING ACTOR IN A DRAMA
Steve Buscemi, Boardwalk Empire
Kyle Chandler, Friday Night Lights
Michael C. Hall, Dexter
Jon Hamm, Mad Men
Hugh Laurie, House
Timothy Olyphant, Justified

Chandler on principle, but if there is a year I feel specifically inclined to award Hugh Laurie for the year and not just in general, it would be this year. If it wasn't Chandler's last chance I'd be Hugh all the way. Timothy Olyphant is disqualified after the big deal The Office made about how good-looking he was when he actually could not BE more average-looking. (Plus, Jim was standing right there. Please.)

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A DRAMA
Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
Josh Charles, The Good Wife
Alan Cumming, The Good Wife
Walton Goggins, Justified
John Slattery, Mad Men
Andre Braugher, Men of a Certain Age

Bleh. Either one of the Good Wife people is fine. I choose the one who doesn't remind me of Pee Wee Herman. And I think I ship Will/Alicia a little. Andre Braugher, otherwise; everyone else can eff off.

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A DRAMA
Kelly Macdonald, Boardwalk Empire
Archie Panjabi, The Good Wife
Christine Baranski, The Good Wife
Margo Martindale, Justified
Michelle Forbes, The Killing
Christina Hendricks, Mad Men

Baranski is the only one whose performance I have seen and don't hate. I also don't love it. Still voting for Christina Hendricks' beauty.

OUTSTANDING GUEST ACTOR IN A DRAMA
Bruce Dern, Big Love
Beau Bridges, Brothers & Sisters
Michael J. Fox, The Good Wife
Paul McCrane, Harry’s Law
Jeremy Davies, Justified
Robert Morse, Mad Men

I actually saw him in this, and he was amazing, per usual.

OUTSTANDING GUEST ACTRESS IN A DRAMA
Mary McDonnell, The Closer
Julia Stiles, Dexter
Loretta Devine, Grey’s Anatomy
Randee Heller, Man Men
Cara Buono, Mad Men
Joan Cusack, Shameless
Alfre Woodard, True Blood

I want to give it to Julia Stiles on principle, but I scorn her for appearing on that show, so forget it. Besides, Loretta Devine is fantastic AND Grey's Anatomy is not only good but the only network show up there and ridiculously underrepresented to boot.

OUTSTANDING WRITING FOR A DRAMA SERIES
Mad Men - The Suitcase
Mad Men - Blowing Smoke
Friday Night Lights - Always
The Killing - Pilot
Game Of Thrones - Baelor

For real? Please. I don't even have to see it to know who needs to win this.

OUSTANDING DIRECTING FOR A DRAMA SERIES
Boardwalk Empire - Boardwalk Empire (Pilot)
Boardwalk Empire - Anastasia
The Borgias - The Poisoned Chalice/The Assassin
The Killing - Pilot
Game Of Thrones - Winter Is Coming (Pilot)

For once, my hands are tied. I have no idea what is going on here.

OUTSTANDING COMEDY
The Big Bang Theory
Glee
Modern Family
The Office
Parks and Recreation
30 Rock

Gleeeee -- wait, actually, The Office was a stronger season this year. Returnin' to my roots.

OUTSTANDING ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
Edie Falco, Nurse Jackie
Tina Fey, 30 Rock
Laura Linney, The Big C
Melissa McCarthy, Mike & Molly
Martha Plimpton, Raising Hope
Amy Poehler, Parks and Recreation

Melissa McCarthy, seriously? ...apparently, yeah! She wins the "Most Redemptive Character in a Sucky Show" award and is just a doll. I will also whoop and cheer for Martha Plimpton, whose character's brand of humor is not quite as loltastic but is on a better show. Tina Fey for the fine but bland multi-winner award, Nurse Jackie is awful, I am not clear on how Laura Linney is a comedic actress but I like her, and AMY POEHLER MUST DIE. Figuratively, I mean. Mostly.

OUTSTANDING ACTOR IN A COMEDY
Alec Baldwin, 30 Rock
Louis C.K., Louie
Steve Carell, The Office
Johnny Galecki, The Big Bang Theory
Matt LeBlanc, Episodes
Jim Parsons, The Big Bang Theory

Oh good, I hate just about everyone/everything. You know who's a good actor? LeBlanc.

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A COMEDY
Chris Colfer, Glee
Jesse Tyler Ferguson, Modern Family
Ed O’Neill, Modern Family
Eric Stonestreet, Modern Family
Ty Burrell, Modern Family
Jon Cryer, Two and a Half Men

*rage blackout* WHAT THE BLEEPING HELL, MODERN FAMILY. I HAVE SEEN YOU, AND YOU ARE JUST NOT THAT GOOD. You know, at this point, this year? I'm gonna root for Jon Cryer, who sadly enough has the best character/show combination on that list. I won't hate on Jesse like I will on the others, I'm just saying this is a terrible role to win something for.

OUTSTANDING SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
Jane Lynch, Glee
Betty White, Hot In Cleveland
Julie Bowen, Modern Family
Sofia Vergara, Modern Family
Kristen Wiig, Saturday Night Live
Jane Krakowski, 30 Rock

Betty White: should be winning all the things ever.  Besides, I hate everyone else and their shows (exceptions: I only hate the part of Glee Sue stars in, and I do not hate Jane Krakowski).

OUTSTANDING GUEST ACTOR IN A COMEDY
Idris Elba, The Big C
Nathan Lane, Modern Family
Zach Galifianakis, Saturday Night Live
Justin Timberlake, Saturday Night Live
Matt Damon, 30 Rock
Will Arnett, 30 Rock

Matt Damon didn't really do much but he made my short-lived 30 Rock watching life really, really happy. I suspect Idris Elba may not have been too shabby, but I can't be sure.

OUTSTANDING GUEST ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
Kristin Chenoweth, Glee
Dot-Marie Jones, Glee
Gwyneth Paltrow, Glee
Cloris Leachman, Raising Hope
Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live
Elizabeth Banks, 30 Rock

Cheno should also be winning all of the things, especially after she didn't get it last year due to the Betty White factor, and furthermore, I can say from experience that she was excellent. Please, please do not give it Cloris Leachman. She is gross in real life and is also the single bad thing on Raising Hope. Finally,if someone on Glee who is *not* Cheno wins, I will slushie somebody in protest.

OUTSTANDING WRITING FOR A COMEDY SERIES
Episodes - Episode 107
The Office - Good-Bye Michael
Modern Family - Caught In The Act
Louie - Poker/Divorce
30 Rock - Reaganing

Don't even try to tell me anything else matches that. Though of the options, 30 Rock is easy second.

OUTSTANDING DIRECTING FOR A COMEDY SERIES
Modern Family - Halloween
Modern Family - Slow Down Your Neighbors
30 Rock - Live Show
Modern Family - See You Next Fall
How I Met Your Mother - Subway Wars

Yeah, that one was pretty spectacular. Also, I am not clear how HIMYM got a nom over Glee. The show is still all bright and shiny and pretty even if the content is questionable.  I'm not sure I've ever seen a show flame out of critical favor quite so fast...

OUTSTANDING REALITY SHOW HOST
Phil Keoghan, The Amazing Race
Ryan Seacrest, American Idol
Tom Bergeron, Dancing With the Stars
Cat Deeley, So You Think You Can Dance
Jeff Probst, Survivor

Show her some love already. I suspect she is one of the five best TV hosts of anything across all time.

OUTSTANDING VARIETY, MUSIC, OR COMEDY SERIES
The Colbert Report, Comedy Central
Conan, TBS
The Daily Show With Jon Stewart, Comedy Central
Late Night With Jimmy Fallon, NBC
Real Time With Bill Maher, HBO
Saturday Night Live, NBC

Note: Jay Leno is still better than all of you punks.

Voice: Aaaand when is the last time you watched that show?
RS: Friends reruns come on at 10:30 and I really like seeing them on a screen bigger than my computer, in perfect quality. Anyway, I've never even seen these dumb shows, except SNL, and SNL is and always has been completely asinine; nothing is worse than skits.

OTHER THINGS OF NOTE
* Where is the Community and How I Met Your Mother acting love? Do we not realize these are the only half hour comedies that are both funny and clever? Seriously, Community is the only non-Glee show I can think of where there are really talented actresses. (sorry, HIMYM. Your ladies do not sufficiently impress.  And on second thought, Cougar Town's ladies should be nominated for their ability to transcend their sucky show. Hush, crackers4jenn , pretend I didn't say that)

* Life Unexpected is a better drama than most of the dramas nominated. So is Parenthood. The internet only agrees with me on one and I don't care. (to further ruin my credit, I also think Off The Map was better than most of the dramas.)

* Guest stars from SVU who should have been nominated: Elizabeth Mitchell. (I liked Debra Messing too, myself, but Mitchell had the kind of performance that this SVU-loving crowd would actually go for)

* I feel strongly that either iCarly or Wizards of Waverly Place should win the "Outstanding Children's Show" award. It makes me happy to see shows like that and feel that quality programming for tweens is not as dead as Saturday morning cartoons.

* Man, there are a lot of categories. It was never able to find such an easy-access list before. I'm fascinated by it. Now I am invested in ALL OF THE THINGS! But I am going to cut my gigantic post off here.

I had more, but I think post is probably long enough for a while.

Comments

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eleigh
Jul. 15th, 2011 03:09 am (UTC)
You know all I've found so far is Ryan Murphy saying they're graduating but I've only seen it confirmed that Lea Michele, Cory Montieth, and Chris Colfer aren't coming back for season 4 so I'm confused.

But, yes, I agree that there's no logical reason some of them couldn't make guest appearances. I mean, shit, I was unbelievably glad to see the back of my high school but my freshman year of college I went back three times (once was before college started for me but had for the high school and I had to go pick up my senior yearbook, I went back for a football game one weekend and I can't even remember why because I hated football, and I went back for basketball homecoming). Sophomore year not so much.

I also continue to be weirdly invested in this show I don't watch anymore (but hey if you want to use your magical super powers to find a video of the guys performing "Stronger" I'd love it. All I found was one with no sound and I could theoretically queue up the song and the video to play at the same time but that takes effort).
rainbowstevie
Jul. 15th, 2011 03:44 am (UTC)
Boom. Magic.

I figure that's all he's confirmed so far. And/or that's just how he feels this week. I don't think he actually puts any thought into all these interviews, he just likes talking and since people continue to lap it up (guilty), he keeps doing it. Plus, the longer he does it, the longer he can avoid actually discussing any concrete plans for season 3 storylines.

I like your concrete proof that my district was not an isolated case of returning freshmen. Good to hear.

eleigh
Jul. 15th, 2011 11:07 am (UTC)
Man you're awesome. I even searched twitvid but apparently I don't know the magic words.

I figure that unless you go to school really far away it's pretty typical to go back to your high school when you're a freshman. I know someone who went to school in D.C. and still made it back for a homecoming dance as a college freshman.
pink_flame_87
Jul. 15th, 2011 03:12 pm (UTC)
I totally agree about Glee. I used to be a devoted follower of degrassi (ok, yes, I know, I know) and I thought they handled the graduating seniors so perfectly. The year before they were going to leave they started working in some new kids, some of them with ties to the older characters (siblings, cousins, neighbors) and some just random kids who knew the other new kids. They still focused on the original characters but the others were around. Then when the majority of the originals did leave, they kept a couple who were either behind in school or just working local jobs who occasionaly ran into the new kids and thus guest spot! Then they picked like three of the more popular original characters and followed them to college. The majority of the episodes focused on the new kids but every once in awhile you'd pop back for a storyline with an original in college. It eased you out of missing people, and before you knew it the "new kids" were "the kids" and you were transitioned lol. I want to see Rachel and Kurt in NYC, I'm not going to lie. I don't think the show should ever be mostly that but a few storylines, heck yes.
rainbowstevie
Jul. 17th, 2011 05:39 am (UTC)
Wow, that does sound like the exactly perfect response. There's your model, Glee! BE LIKE DEGRASSI.
muzzy_olorea
Jul. 16th, 2011 11:43 am (UTC)
Oooh I SO concur! Parenthood should be getting nominations! The only reason it's not (despite, I think, heavy bias by TPTB) is that it really is an ensemble show. With FNL, you can at least say you've got Coach/Mrs Coach as leads but with Parenthood, you've really got to say that the 4 siblings all have a nearly equal part to play and to be fair, so do their other halves. Ditto all their children. (Not sure how I feel about Lauren Graham and Peter Krause possibly being classed as the leads just because they are more well known. I suppose the show does pay slightly more attention to their characters but only slightly). It definitely definitely should have got a writing / directing / producing nomination though.

Life Unexpected ... hmm, got to say it never really had a chance, especially with Season 2 being Season 2 and the fact it is on The CW and was practically dead before the season began. If I'm going to have to choose who to nominate then I guess it would be Shiri Appleby for Season 1.

I didn't get as far down as the writing/directing nominations when I looked but YAY FOR FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS GETTING ANOTHER NOM! I think The Mentalist and/or Castle season finales should have got a look in there too as they were both pretty deserving (whatever happens in the season premieres).

I saw that spoiler for CSI:NY and liked it - full points for bringing the show full circle. However, I suspect that this may be the year that I finally stop watching it though as I don't have time to keep shows on my list just out of habit.
rainbowstevie
Jul. 17th, 2011 05:47 am (UTC)
Parenthood: Fair enough, especially regarding the kids - sure didn't stop Modern Family much, though.

Life Unexpected: yeah, at a glance, season 1 seems more award-worthy. And for all the reasons mentioned, I didn't seriously expect it to have any pull. But when I see things like "Dexter" all my rational feelings go out the window.
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